#58 - Jason Schiers - The man who turns carbon into gold

#58 - Jason Schiers - The man who turns carbon into gold

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Jason Schiers is the new CEO of GT Bikes.


If you’re not familiar with the name of Jason, you are probably much more familiar with the brands he started or was involved in, like Enve, Trust Suspension and Why Titanium Cycles.


And when you see where Enve is today for example, you probably wonder how that guy created this brand that became what it is today.


But there’s much more than Enve that was worth discussing with Jason, and having his views on technologies, manufacturing processes, product, branding and distribution gives us an interesting perspective on the opportunities and threads that brands have to face in today’s challenges for the industry.


In this episode, expect to hear about:

- The creation of Edge, that ultimately became Enve

- Why it took so long before carbon rims became the norm

- What it takes to make a carbon rim strong enough for abusive riding

- The moment the Syndicate decided to be the first team to switch on carbon wheels in downhill racing despite scepticism among the team

- The reason why Jason sees carbon as superior to aluminium on the long run

- The reason why he thinks certain brands should focus more on simple products

- The full story behind becoming the CEO of GT

- How he sees the collaboration between brands and IBDs in a difficult context

- His plans for the future of GT

- And much more.


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